HEY GUYS!!!

pero750 · Joined: 11 Mar 2007 Posts: 11 Karma: +1 (1)

Im sorry i must say im thinking about leaving u guys.Im not temted by some other soc but it's something else it's bothering me....things like society team hunting.If i usaly hunt in team with some other friend we usaly split globals(HOF we still didnt score Sad

) I know about ammo cost true the hunt,but by now i have little high cost my self too.Im using riker ul1 with amp 103 its nothing much but still.To get to the poit, from 2 globals-200 peds i get 30,second member get 10-15 and the third the rest so how much cost he can have if we hunt alophyls and i always think if team have good armors for moob they hunt,they must use eqal damage weapons so the loot can be share fair...

Second thing is about Achma,man u always teling me that u usaly give a gift wich u get when a disciple finish training...i didnt get anything Shocked

hehehe it must be something nice Wink

u can at least give someting to confirm this achivement wich i mostly rich with my hard sweat Very Happy

For exsample Gand give me paints and shirt for first global we score Wink

ahhh just remember for second one he told me not to shot on longu we run in to an he get global of 80 peds and keep it Rolling Eyes

In that time 5 peds seams like heaven lol

And for the last....IT´S NOTHING GOING ON HERE !!! Sad

....Latley we the rookies and Manar are the only one online for month now Question

Guys im sorry but i must say things i write above,i like this game weery much and i think its ok by on your own but good society and team mates is one of things that are the most important here....

Enought naging Very Happy

TNX for the help and good advises u give me on the road and i hope u will still provide me becouse you are still my friends Very Happy

I wiss u all good luck in this tougt world Wink

Manar · Joined: 05 Nov 2006 Posts: 141 Karma: +51 (51)

It is sorry to hear you feel like that, because it is fun to have you here and hunt with you. About the loot i would gladly have used Rikers too if you just had asked for it. We would both have lost from that though. The thing is that when i do more damage than you i keep the mob close to me. I get all the hits and my armour take all the decay. That adds up to a bit of cost for me and it helps you to stay alive. Also the difference between the Riker and the Korss is not only the damage but the ammo burn and decay. The echonomy is very different, and the team distribution for "damage shared itemstacks" equalizes that a little.. You can fire the Riker 34 times per minute and each shot costs 5,73 pec with the ammo and markup. The korss however can fire 57 times a minute, and each shot costs 9,44 pec with ammo and markup. That means that for every minute using Riker you will pay 1,94 peds, but If you use Korss you will pay 3,27 peds for the same time. During an hour-long hunt that will account for a difference of nearly 80 peds, just for the gun.
During that hunt where we globaled twice, afterwards when all was repaired and restocked i managed to net an income of 25 peds total. If you did much worse i would be glad to share it with you. At the hunt however you asked me for 100 peds (if i understood you correctly) and that was just not possible. Not even for a friend, like you. I am not that rich.

scorpiokev · Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 9:40 am Post subject:

Sorry to hear you're leaving us Pero but I understand that things have gone very quiet in Scorpio and there may be a better option for you out there.

Regarding graduating: this is a personal thing and your mentor is not expected to give anything further to his disciple on their graduation. After all they have or ought to have given you the advice and help needed for you to graduate, anything more than this is a bonus.

My view is that all Scorpions must be self sufficient. Most of us have had to invest much time and cash to get where we are today.

I received nothing from my mentor all the way through my disciple period nor when I graduated, but no complaints from me, I was happy for the help and knowledge I got.

I admit though we now do very little as a united society and teaming is pretty rare even within Scorpio main society.

One reason for this is I think members want to do their own thing, the other reason being the wide discrepancy in skills, equipment and available peds.

I agree with Manar and I too am not prepared to subsidise lower skilled Scorpions in team hunts: EU is too expensive as it is and nowadays I'll only team 'stack split' ie. 'damage determines'.

Good luck Pero it's tough out there!

achma · Joined: 04 Nov 2006 Posts: 255 Karma: +51 (53)

I'm not sure what I shall say about this.

I beleve I have never said anything about giving you a gift when you graduate, I have always said that the only thing I get from mentoring you is a gift when you graduate.

I have asked you about going on hunts, but you have hunted with a friend numerous times. What I have done with new diciples is that I have given them 10 peds out of their first team global eaven though they havent shot anything. I did a similar thing with you if you remember.. After our fist hunt you had a few peds (40 or so, eaven though you didnt shoot anything) that you turned into 120 peds somehow. So that you havent got anything from me must be wrong.

I totally agree with Manar and Kev, the option "stack split" is the best option when hunting with lower skilled avatars, that way you get back a equal portion of the loot based upon dmg. you cause.

pero750 · Joined: 11 Mar 2007 Posts: 11 Karma: +1 (1)

Im sorry guys if u get me wrong,as i see i didnt write it right.AS for Achma i have nothing on you man u help me a lot an dshare of a global is a thing i can only thank you,it kepp me going for a month then Very Happy

And for the gift for graduating im pretty shure we talk about giving it to me,but id doesnt matter really what gift u get becouse u deserve Wink

So naturaly if i think if im gona get something,ofcourse im little dissapointed if i didnt get even a piece of clothes or some low weapon or something...at leas i will give something to my disciple to honor our relationship.And Longu global that i mentioned its on Gand NOT on you!!
I aint holding a grudge on you Achma, just seems to me a little low....

And for the team hunt with u Manar..we have damage split at first and u change it to damage determened??
So true the hunt we had, u always get for example from one moob u get 125 cells,me 30 cells and tezhy 20 so here u little even the damage u take with your big gun. Manar, i didnt want 100 peds from you, but 100 peds was the difference between us when we received the global.Regarding the facts of damage you did, the difference was a little 2 big. This things are happening very frequently lately, so by nature im a little pissed off.
Im sorry but i cant help asking my self what will happen if we win the ALL TIME HIGH Question

Manar · Joined: 05 Nov 2006 Posts: 141 Karma: +51 (51)

Actually, at first I forgott to set the share so it was the default Damage: item share. Then after a few mobs i noticed my mistake and changed it to Damage: stack share. The globals hapened after that.
When it comes to HOFs and ATHs there are no written rules, but the unspoken rule is that those will be share as equal as possible. Globals however are excepted because with the echonomy the way it is it is rare that a hunt ends with profit for anyone, and the biggest guns pay the most for it. A global usualy just makes you loose sligltly less and equalize things a little.

Even if the difference was 100 peds between us at that global i seriously doubt i ended up 100 peds richer than you. As i said i netted 25 peds plus that day with all globals and loots included. Did you had a loss of 75 peds in that hunt ? If you did then you realy need to work on your aiming.

scorpiokev · Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 12:26 am Post subject:

Manar · Joined: 05 Nov 2006 Posts: 141 Karma: +51 (51)

When i hunted in a team with Gem and we had a HOF we shared it that way, that is why i thought that was the general rule. But if our wise and good leader decree otherwice then that is the rule ofcorse Smile

achma · Joined: 04 Nov 2006 Posts: 255 Karma: +51 (53)

I beleve there are two ways in Scorpio, one for the academy (split all items over 500 PEDS) and one for main (keep what you loot).

Thats the way it has been done when I've been around atleast.

scorpiokev · Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 9:19 am Post subject:

Manar · Joined: 05 Nov 2006 Posts: 141 Karma: +51 (51)

Maybe it would be better if we had a written policy that we could refer to when needed. That would help avoid confusions.

Silver · Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Posts: 54 Karma: +20 (20)

This is one of the reasons that I don't team hunt much any more on the odd occasions I'm online. If the team members' skill/equipment levels are too different, there just isn't a fair setting for loot allocation. Someone always feels they've lost out. Plus it's a pain working it out afterwards if you try to fairly apportion the loot yourselves. It's simpler not to join teams at all. If you want to team hunt, the best option is to find people of similar abilities and equipment (make that a requirement of the hunt) and split the loot based on damage. That ensures everyone gets rewarded in proportion to expenditure.

By the way, I think I've finally overcome my PC problems, so I may be able to play a bit more often, if not for as long each time.

Cheers,
Silver.

achma · Joined: 04 Nov 2006 Posts: 255 Karma: +51 (53)

Good to have you back Silver! Smile

Gand · Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 8:10 pm Post subject:

Sorry you feel this way, Pero, but it's a dog-eat-dog world... I believe I have told you, on several occations, that you should not expect to get anything for free. Life on Calypso is an expensive one!

But I want to comment on the longu global; Do you remember the circumstances of that hunt? You needed an escort to get through a longu/atrox area, and I told you to stay away from the fight since you did virtually no damage with the opalo, and would only piss the mobs off! I think you remember how many times you died, and that you where infact dead at the time of the global... These were mobs too big for you to handle, even in team with me, and I personally saw no problem with keeping that loot myself. You should have talked to me about it then, and not keeping it in to throw at us now. I enjoyed hunting with you guys, and you should know that going on such hunts with lower leveled players generally cause a loss for me (as sadly most hunts do anyway)... I still believe that I was right to keep all the loot myself, but since you obviously disagree you should have brought it up then, and have me explain myself to you. I stand by my decision.

It's been a long time since I was online, so I don't know how far you have progressed, Pero, but try to do a hunt with a few n00bs and see how well your wallet likes it... I have no hard feelings towards you, I just want to point out how unfair I think your statement is!

Other than that I realise that time spent online can prove to be lonely in Scorpio, but the quality of our companions far outweigh the solitude one may experience... As I have said numerous times before; I much prefer a few good and thrustworthy friends, to a bunch of chatty people whose personality is drowned in the spam of a soc-channel...

-Gand

scorpiokev · Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 9:47 pm Post subject: